Children's health

NJ religion for vaccine exemptions

Some New Jersey chiropractors have started a religion called the
Congregation of Universal Wisdom. Membership can support a
request for a vaccine exemption.
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/01/14/health/14VACC.html

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13 Responses to “NJ religion for vaccine exemptions”

  1. admin says:

    And if one needs an IV, surgery or other procedure, he is out of luck too.

    All the best,

    Jeff

    "Roger Schlafly" <roge…@mindspring.com> wrote in message

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    > Some New Jersey chiropractors have started a religion called the
    > Congregation of Universal Wisdom. Membership can support a
    > request for a vaccine exemption.
    > http://www.nytimes.com/2003/01/14/health/14VACC.html

  2. admin says:

    "Nanaweedkiller" <nanaweedkil…@yahoo.com> wrote:

    >"john" <j…@nospam.com> wrote in message
    >news:b012od$77d$1@helle.btinternet.com…
    >> Delusional MD Epidemic Grows
    >>  http://www.sickofdoctors.addr.com/articles/delusional_md.htm

    >> by Fintan Dunne, 01 Jan ’03
    >> Editor http://www.SickofDoctors.com

    >Isn’t this the same site that claims small pox is caused by bed bugs?
    >The subject title is appropriately named.

    The more I hear from Fintan Dunne the prouder I get that s/h/it has
    attacked me.


    Peter Bowditch pet…@ratbags.com
    The Millenium Project    http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles
    The Green Light          http://www.ratbags.com/greenlight

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    Peter Bowditch <pet…@ratbags.com> wrote in message <news:ger82v8sk3je8u6l6ket8o7rcjjnplsdnr@4ax.com>…
    > "Nanaweedkiller" <nanaweedkil…@yahoo.com> wrote:

    > >"john" <j…@nospam.com> wrote in message
    > >news:b012od$77d$1@helle.btinternet.com…
    > >> Delusional MD Epidemic Grows
    > >>  http://www.sickofdoctors.addr.com/articles/delusional_md.htm

    > >> by Fintan Dunne, 01 Jan ’03
    > >> Editor http://www.SickofDoctors.com

    > >Isn’t this the same site that claims small pox is caused by bed bugs?
    > >The subject title is appropriately named.

    > The more I hear from Fintan Dunne the prouder I get that s/h/it has
    > attacked me.

    Fintan Dunne has been active in spreading misinformation about HIV and
    AIDS for several years.

    http://aidsmyth.addr.com/

    He seems to be under the delusion that he is an investigative reporter
    inline for a Pulitzer prize.

    Coincidentally, all of his stories purport to demonstrate that doctors
    and scientists are stupid and greedy.

    I was banned from his forum for daring to disagree with some of his
    claims.

    If anyone wants a laugh read this thread where one of the loonies
    emails a scientist telling them that their electrom micrographs of HIV
    are all fakes!

    Chris Noble

  4. admin says:

    ChrisJNo…@hotmail.com (Chris Noble) wrote in
    news:9342a45e.0301142052.61e023d8@posting.google.com:

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    > Peter Bowditch <pet…@ratbags.com> wrote in message
    > <news:ger82v8sk3je8u6l6ket8o7rcjjnplsdnr@4ax.com>…
    >> "Nanaweedkiller" <nanaweedkil…@yahoo.com> wrote:

    >> >"john" <j…@nospam.com> wrote in message
    >> >news:b012od$77d$1@helle.btinternet.com…
    >> >> Delusional MD Epidemic Grows
    >> >>  http://www.sickofdoctors.addr.com/articles/delusional_md.htm

    >> >> by Fintan Dunne, 01 Jan ’03
    >> >> Editor http://www.SickofDoctors.com

    >> >Isn’t this the same site that claims small pox is caused by bed bugs?
    >> >The subject title is appropriately named.

    >> The more I hear from Fintan Dunne the prouder I get that s/h/it has
    >> attacked me.

    > Fintan Dunne has been active in spreading misinformation about HIV and
    > AIDS for several years.

    > http://aidsmyth.addr.com/

    > He seems to be under the delusion that he is an investigative reporter
    > inline for a Pulitzer prize.

    > Coincidentally, all of his stories purport to demonstrate that doctors
    > and scientists are stupid and greedy.

    > I was banned from his forum for daring to disagree with some of his
    > claims.

    > If anyone wants a laugh read this thread where one of the loonies
    > emails a scientist telling them that their electrom micrographs of HIV
    > are all fakes!

    > Chris Noble

    Chris,

    Is it my imagination, or are all the loonies expanding their horizons?  Seems
    that since the holidays, a new bunch of them all over usenet.

    r


    "I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, de-briefed, or
    numbered…My life is my own."

    "I am not a number.  I am a free man."
    No. 6

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    Ilena wrote:
    > Tuesday, January 14, 2003
    > http://www.stratiawire.com/article.asp?id=834

    > BILL FRIST IN THE SLIME

    > JANUARY 14. New Republican Majority Leader, Bill Frist, a medical
    > doctor, has pledged to reverse the heinous little section of the
    > Homeland Security Act which protects Eli Lilly against lawsuits.

    > Lilly was the major manufacturer of thimerosal, a toxic mercury
    > compound that has been included in many vaccines.

    > How this reversal will be achieved is unclear. Frist is talking about
    > revisiting the topic in "comprehensive" legislation early this year.

    > Interesting.

    > In a recent LA Weekly article, Doug Ireland accuses Frist of being the
    > man who actually WAS INSTRUMENTAL IN GETTING that little piece of the
    > Homeland Security Bill inserted in the first place.

    > I have sent a message to Ireland asking him how he established that
    > Frist was the culprit.

    > If Ireland’s assertion is true, we are witnessing one of the sneakier,
    > slimier moves in recent legislative history.

    > Ireland has much to say about Frist.

    > For example: "Frist was born rich and got richer—thanks to massive
    > criminal fraud by the family business."

    > That business is Hospital Corporation of America (HCA), "the largest
    > for-profit hospital chain in the country."

    > Just as the senate majority leader position was changing hands (Lott
    > out, Frist in), the Dept. of Justice stopped its ten-year probe into
    > HCA. At issue? A massive fraud perpetrated against Medicaid and
    > Medicare. Overbilling, false billing.

    > DOJ allowed HCA to pay $631 million in fines, and dropped the goal of
    > putting its top people in prison.

    > HCA also avoids being kicked out of the Medicare system altogether.

    > Bill Frist’s brother Tom, the director of HCA, gets a major breather.
    > Poof. Criminal charges against him go away.

    > When Bill campaigned for and won his senate seat in Tennessee back in
    > 1994, he spent $3.4 million of his own money in the
    > process—HCA-derived money.

    > While in the senate, Frist has backed the establishment of caps on
    > damages that can be paid out to people who sue hospitals like HCA.

    > Frist states that he has no present connection to HCA, because the $26
    > million he and wife have in company stock is now in a blind trust.
    > Blind, unblind, Frist could simply have sold all that stock BECAUSE
    > HCA was acting in criminal fashion.

    > Frist was the chairman of the National Republican Senatorial Campaign
    > Committee, a group that raises money for Repubs running for the
    > senate. Ireland points out that the largest corporate-sector donor to
    > the Committee was the pharmaceutical industry, and the biggest company
    > giver was, naturally, ELI LILLY.

    > In case you think that citizens are doing nothing against such
    > corruption, well, there are thousands of lawsuits pending against
    > Lilly on the thimerosal issue. It’s clear that the outcry against that
    > covert insertion in Homeland Security to protect Lilly would have
    > hardly raised an eyebrow on Capitol Hill were it not for all those
    > parents who are outraged about the damage Lilly has done to their
    > children.

    > However, what will be the final result? Will Frist really lead the
    > charge to reverse the protection of Lilly, or will he duck and dodge
    > and stonewall and lie?

    > Let’s keep our eye on the good doctor. Rappoport-Vegas is not
    > optimistic at the moment. Odds against Frist exposing Lilly to
    > billions in suits are running at 50 to 1.

        Interesting reading.  Who is Doug Ireland?

    Steve


    Mark & Steven Bornfeld DDS
    Brooklyn, NY
    718-258-5001
    http://www.dentaltwins.com

  6. admin says:

    Mark & Steven Bornfeld DDS <bornf…@dentaltwins.com> wrote in message >     Interesting reading.  Who is Doug Ireland?

    > Steve

    Good question … did a quick google for you:

    http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&scor...

  7. admin says:

    Ilena, Get a life!  Mercury poisoning in mercury alloy simply does not exist
    nor do any of your other pathetic fantasies.
    "Ilena" <il…@san.rr.com> wrote in message

    news:19faaec.0301140812.10a7a14a@posting.google.com…

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    > Tuesday, January 14, 2003
    > http://www.stratiawire.com/article.asp?id=834

    > BILL FRIST IN THE SLIME

    > JANUARY 14. New Republican Majority Leader, Bill Frist, a medical
    > doctor, has pledged to reverse the heinous little section of the
    > Homeland Security Act which protects Eli Lilly against lawsuits.

    > Lilly was the major manufacturer of thimerosal, a toxic mercury
    > compound that has been included in many vaccines.

    > How this reversal will be achieved is unclear. Frist is talking about
    > revisiting the topic in "comprehensive" legislation early this year.

    > Interesting.

    > In a recent LA Weekly article, Doug Ireland accuses Frist of being the
    > man who actually WAS INSTRUMENTAL IN GETTING that little piece of the
    > Homeland Security Bill inserted in the first place.

    > I have sent a message to Ireland asking him how he established that
    > Frist was the culprit.

    > If Ireland’s assertion is true, we are witnessing one of the sneakier,
    > slimier moves in recent legislative history.

    > Ireland has much to say about Frist.

    > For example: "Frist was born rich and got richer—thanks to massive
    > criminal fraud by the family business."

    > That business is Hospital Corporation of America (HCA), "the largest
    > for-profit hospital chain in the country."

    > Just as the senate majority leader position was changing hands (Lott
    > out, Frist in), the Dept. of Justice stopped its ten-year probe into
    > HCA. At issue? A massive fraud perpetrated against Medicaid and
    > Medicare. Overbilling, false billing.

    > DOJ allowed HCA to pay $631 million in fines, and dropped the goal of
    > putting its top people in prison.

    > HCA also avoids being kicked out of the Medicare system altogether.

    > Bill Frist’s brother Tom, the director of HCA, gets a major breather.
    > Poof. Criminal charges against him go away.

    > When Bill campaigned for and won his senate seat in Tennessee back in
    > 1994, he spent $3.4 million of his own money in the
    > process—HCA-derived money.

    > While in the senate, Frist has backed the establishment of caps on
    > damages that can be paid out to people who sue hospitals like HCA.

    > Frist states that he has no present connection to HCA, because the $26
    > million he and wife have in company stock is now in a blind trust.
    > Blind, unblind, Frist could simply have sold all that stock BECAUSE
    > HCA was acting in criminal fashion.

    > Frist was the chairman of the National Republican Senatorial Campaign
    > Committee, a group that raises money for Repubs running for the
    > senate. Ireland points out that the largest corporate-sector donor to
    > the Committee was the pharmaceutical industry, and the biggest company
    > giver was, naturally, ELI LILLY.

    > In case you think that citizens are doing nothing against such
    > corruption, well, there are thousands of lawsuits pending against
    > Lilly on the thimerosal issue. It’s clear that the outcry against that
    > covert insertion in Homeland Security to protect Lilly would have
    > hardly raised an eyebrow on Capitol Hill were it not for all those
    > parents who are outraged about the damage Lilly has done to their
    > children.

    > However, what will be the final result? Will Frist really lead the
    > charge to reverse the protection of Lilly, or will he duck and dodge
    > and stonewall and lie?

    > Let’s keep our eye on the good doctor. Rappoport-Vegas is not
    > optimistic at the moment. Odds against Frist exposing Lilly to
    > billions in suits are running at 50 to 1.

  8. admin says:

    In article <19faaec.0301140812.10a7a…@posting.google.com>,

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    Ilena <il…@san.rr.com> wrote:
    >Tuesday, January 14, 2003
    >http://www.stratiawire.com/article.asp?id=834

    >BILL FRIST IN THE SLIME

    >JANUARY 14. New Republican Majority Leader, Bill Frist, a medical
    >doctor, has pledged to reverse the heinous little section of the
    >Homeland Security Act which protects Eli Lilly against lawsuits.

    >Lilly was the major manufacturer of thimerosal, a toxic mercury
    >compound that has been included in many vaccines.

    >How this reversal will be achieved is unclear. Frist is talking about
    >revisiting the topic in "comprehensive" legislation early this year.

    >Interesting.

    >In a recent LA Weekly article, Doug Ireland accuses Frist of being the
    >man who actually WAS INSTRUMENTAL IN GETTING that little piece of the
    >Homeland Security Bill inserted in the first place.

    >I have sent a message to Ireland asking him how he established that
    >Frist was the culprit.

    Summary of Ireland’s statement:  "Frist made his money in HCA, which is
    a slimy corporation.  Also, the Republicans took a lot of money from
    Lilly, and Frist was the chairman of the Republican Senatorial Campaign
    Committee."

    Apparently, this constitutes proof that Frist was responsible for the
    thimerosal provision in the law last year.  

    (We know Tom Delay did it in the House version, because Delay bragged
    about doing it.)

      — David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
         These are my opinions only, but they’re almost always correct.
           "If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants
                      were standing on my shoulders."

  9. admin says:

    Gerard, you are full of it.
    "Gerard" <Gerard_E_W…@msn.com> wrote in message

    news:v29ispl2sefpdc@corp.supernews.com…

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    > Ilena, Get a life!  Mercury poisoning in mercury alloy simply does not
    exist
    > nor do any of your other pathetic fantasies.
    > "Ilena" <il…@san.rr.com> wrote in message
    > news:19faaec.0301140812.10a7a14a@posting.google.com…
    > > Tuesday, January 14, 2003
    > > http://www.stratiawire.com/article.asp?id=834

    > > BILL FRIST IN THE SLIME

    > > JANUARY 14. New Republican Majority Leader, Bill Frist, a medical
    > > doctor, has pledged to reverse the heinous little section of the
    > > Homeland Security Act which protects Eli Lilly against lawsuits.

    > > Lilly was the major manufacturer of thimerosal, a toxic mercury
    > > compound that has been included in many vaccines.

    > > How this reversal will be achieved is unclear. Frist is talking about
    > > revisiting the topic in "comprehensive" legislation early this year.

    > > Interesting.

    > > In a recent LA Weekly article, Doug Ireland accuses Frist of being the
    > > man who actually WAS INSTRUMENTAL IN GETTING that little piece of the
    > > Homeland Security Bill inserted in the first place.

    > > I have sent a message to Ireland asking him how he established that
    > > Frist was the culprit.

    > > If Ireland’s assertion is true, we are witnessing one of the sneakier,
    > > slimier moves in recent legislative history.

    > > Ireland has much to say about Frist.

    > > For example: "Frist was born rich and got richer—thanks to massive
    > > criminal fraud by the family business."

    > > That business is Hospital Corporation of America (HCA), "the largest
    > > for-profit hospital chain in the country."

    > > Just as the senate majority leader position was changing hands (Lott
    > > out, Frist in), the Dept. of Justice stopped its ten-year probe into
    > > HCA. At issue? A massive fraud perpetrated against Medicaid and
    > > Medicare. Overbilling, false billing.

    > > DOJ allowed HCA to pay $631 million in fines, and dropped the goal of
    > > putting its top people in prison.

    > > HCA also avoids being kicked out of the Medicare system altogether.

    > > Bill Frist’s brother Tom, the director of HCA, gets a major breather.
    > > Poof. Criminal charges against him go away.

    > > When Bill campaigned for and won his senate seat in Tennessee back in
    > > 1994, he spent $3.4 million of his own money in the
    > > process—HCA-derived money.

    > > While in the senate, Frist has backed the establishment of caps on
    > > damages that can be paid out to people who sue hospitals like HCA.

    > > Frist states that he has no present connection to HCA, because the $26
    > > million he and wife have in company stock is now in a blind trust.
    > > Blind, unblind, Frist could simply have sold all that stock BECAUSE
    > > HCA was acting in criminal fashion.

    > > Frist was the chairman of the National Republican Senatorial Campaign
    > > Committee, a group that raises money for Repubs running for the
    > > senate. Ireland points out that the largest corporate-sector donor to
    > > the Committee was the pharmaceutical industry, and the biggest company
    > > giver was, naturally, ELI LILLY.

    > > In case you think that citizens are doing nothing against such
    > > corruption, well, there are thousands of lawsuits pending against
    > > Lilly on the thimerosal issue. It’s clear that the outcry against that
    > > covert insertion in Homeland Security to protect Lilly would have
    > > hardly raised an eyebrow on Capitol Hill were it not for all those
    > > parents who are outraged about the damage Lilly has done to their
    > > children.

    > > However, what will be the final result? Will Frist really lead the
    > > charge to reverse the protection of Lilly, or will he duck and dodge
    > > and stonewall and lie?

    > > Let’s keep our eye on the good doctor. Rappoport-Vegas is not
    > > optimistic at the moment. Odds against Frist exposing Lilly to
    > > billions in suits are running at 50 to 1.

  10. admin says:

    Ilena wrote:
    > Mark & Steven Bornfeld DDS <bornf…@dentaltwins.com> wrote in message >     Interesting reading.  Who is Doug Ireland?

    > > Steve

    > Good question … did a quick google for you:

        Apparently a New York guy at that.  I’m apparently reading the wrong leftist rags.

    Steve

    > http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&scor...


    Mark & Steven Bornfeld DDS
    Brooklyn, NY
    718-258-5001
    http://www.dentaltwins.com

  11. admin says:

    "Gerard" <Gerard_E_W…@msn.com> wrote in message <news:v29ispl2sefpdc@corp.supernews.com>…
    > Ilena, Get a life!

    thank you for your dictate … who/whatever you are.

    i have one.

    http://www.BreastImplantAwareness.org

  12. admin says:

    tools <medto…@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:z9fV9.11642$Qr4.1152960@newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net…
    > Gerard, you are full of it.

    Full of mercury?????

    Then he needs Jan Drew!!!!!!

    Joel M. Eichen DDS

  13. admin says:

    Ilena <il…@san.rr.com> wrote in message news:19faaec.0301151044.176eadb5@posting.google.com…
    > "Gerard" <Gerard_E_W…@msn.com> wrote in message <news:v29ispl2sefpdc@corp.supernews.com>…
    > > Ilena, Get a life!

    > thank you for your dictate … who/whatever you are.

    > i have one.

    > http://www.BreastImplantAwareness.org

    REPLY:

    It may be online, it may fly in  
    the face of CDC, USPHS,
    and NIH studies, but it is a LIFE,
    ain’t it Ilena!

    Joeley