Sherri Miller <sherri.mil…@wellnow.com> wrote in article
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> > When you have a backache, go to a Doctor of Chiropractic (DC).
> > But when you are sick, go to a Doctor of Medicine (MD).
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> If I had continued to listen to my pediatricians, I would not have found
out
> about my sons food allergies; I would not have pursued finding out what
was
> wrong with my daughter (she is autistic), I would have continued them on
the
> endless anti-biotic/ear infection cycle, and my daughter would still be
> suffering from vaginal yeast infections, which she had off an on the
entire
> year she was 4 (four years ago), due to being over anti-bioticked (I
know,
> it’s not a word, but you get the idea.)

> I stopped allowing my children to have anti-biotics, and treated them
with
> vitamins and herbs instead, and they are the healthiest kids I know.  My
2
> year old has had 2 ear infections, which I treated with garlic, echinacea
and
> vitamin C.  She has never been on anti-biotics, and is rarely sick.  My
> older two had ear infections almost constantly.

> If I had listened to my OB/GYN, I would still be suffering from yeast
> infections.   After a year of trying to treat me, I was finally told,
"I’ve
> done everything I know how to do for you."  It turns out I, like my
daughter,
> was suffering from Candida overgrowth.  A strict diet (which was
temporary)
> and acidophilus and garlic supplements cured us.

> Finally, if my husband had continued to listen to his doctor, he’d most
likely
> be dead.  He was continually told to "go home and take Maalox" for his
stomach
> problems and weight loss.  He finally found a GI who took him seriously.
He
> found out he has Celiac Disease, and his small intestine had stopped
> functioning.

> So, you’ll forgive me if I have a hard time trusting the medical

profession.
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> I think the word "REALLY" (not as in "extremely" but as in "truly") is
> missing between  "are" and "sick" in the last sentence referring to MD’s.

> Daniel J. Grossman <d…@motility.org> wrote in article
> <33b92535.21831…@news.mindspring.com>…
> > When you have a question about God, go to a Doctor of Divinity (DD).

better still, go ask a mystic

> > When you have a legal problem, go to a Doctor of Jurisprudence (JD)

And take out a bank loan.
.
> > When you have a backache, go to a Doctor of Chiropractic (DC).

Or cranial osteopath, but read up on the milk allergy and dehydration
cause.

> > But when you are sick, go to a Doctor of Medicine (MD).

Preferably a nutritional M.D. if you can find one, but never take any
drugs except in life threatening infections.  Essential to study
naturopathy/natural hygiene and consult a naturopath or homeopath, and
mercury free dentist.

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> When you have a question about God, go to a Doctor of Divinity (DD).
> When you have a legal problem, go to a Doctor of Jurisprudence (JD).
> When you have a backache, go to a Doctor of Chiropractic (DC).
> But when you are sick, go to a Doctor of Medicine (MD).

I don’t want to start a flame war, but I just have to say that the medical
profession has failed my family many times.

If I had continued to listen to my pediatricians, I would not have found out
about my sons food allergies; I would not have pursued finding out what was
wrong with my daughter (she is autistic), I would have continued them on the
endless anti-biotic/ear infection cycle, and my daughter would still be
suffering from vaginal yeast infections, which she had off an on the entire
year she was 4 (four years ago), due to being over anti-bioticked (I know,
it’s not a word, but you get the idea.)

I stopped allowing my children to have anti-biotics, and treated them with
vitamins and herbs instead, and they are the healthiest kids I know.  My 2
year old has had 2 ear infections, which I treated with garlic, echinacea and
vitamin C.  She has never been on anti-biotics, and is rarely sick.  My
older two had ear infections almost constantly.

If I had listened to my OB/GYN, I would still be suffering from yeast
infections.   After a year of trying to treat me, I was finally told, "I’ve
done everything I know how to do for you."  It turns out I, like my daughter,
was suffering from Candida overgrowth.  A strict diet (which was temporary)
and acidophilus and garlic supplements cured us.

Finally, if my husband had continued to listen to his doctor, he’d most likely
be dead.  He was continually told to "go home and take Maalox" for his stomach
problems and weight loss.  He finally found a GI who took him seriously.  He
found out he has Celiac Disease, and his small intestine had stopped
functioning.

So, you’ll forgive me if I have a hard time trusting the medical profession.

By the way, I am typing this on a new com program, and as I type I see the
letters "us" after every line.  I have no idea why this is, or if it will show
up when I send this, but thath’s why it’s there.

Daniel J. Grossman <d…@motility.org> wrote in article
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> When you have a question about God, go to a Doctor of Divinity (DD).
> When you have a legal problem, go to a Doctor of Jurisprudence (JD).
> When you have a backache, go to a Doctor of Chiropractic (DC).
> But when you are sick, go to a Doctor of Medicine (MD).

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>Good points.  If we were taught natural hygiene principles from birth
>and all the doctors were natural hygienist or the straight naturopaths
>we could cut disease by 90% and the amount of doctors and medical
>spending by 90%.   Perhaps we could pay them only when we are well like
>they used to do in China.  They should really be teachers of healthy
>living, and it is interesting you mentioning that physician means
>teacher.  They could also teach us not to use mercury amalgam (don’t
>wait for the dentists) or sleep in bad earth energy places.  If we get
>ill they will have taught us to grow our own herbs and how to make
>medicines from them.  This does go against human nature which wants to
>hand over health responsibilities and likes the idea of just
>take-a-pill-feel-better.  Pity it doesn’t work like that but no drug doc
>or other potion pushing docs are going to tell them are they?  Most of
>them believe it anyway.  The hidden agenda of medicine is that it needs
>sickness like a junkie.  It is The Great Drug Cult of this century.

>John

That is a good point John. Many do not want to admit it, but the
medical profession has always been a following profession and not a
leadership profession. They are driven by a market force to offer a
"pill for every ill" to a society that took a lack of responsibility
towards their own health care. The Medics have lost their own
principles to "principal" whereas the chiropractic profession which
has remained separate and distinct from medicine for more than 100
years has always gone against the grain. Although chiropractors have
not always represented their own profession without compromise, the
majority have remained grounded in a vitalistic approach to health
care that involves many aspects of patient education and
responsibility. Now that there’s a paradigm shift away from drugs and
surgery and towards a public reclaiming responsibility towards ones
own health there becomes a deep concern for those in medical politics.
The scrutiny of chiropractic methods and practice have been so extreme
that chiropractors have generally developed into a breed of well
educated, well spoken individuals that have had to continuously
educate their patients as to many factors of health care in order to
survive the attempts of managed care and other forces. The result?
There are now ~20,000 students in the U.S. currently in chiropractic
colleges with an estimated doubling of the 60,000 in U.S. practice by
the year 2005 and an estimated tripling by 2010. Once again we have
forces that are market driven, but they are driven by a public that
has come to realize that the body is a self-healing, self-regulating
organism that just needs no interference from outside forces in order
to survive.

Watch for the medical profession to offer real soon, the inclusion of
all chiropractors into the field of medicine so they can once again
gain control over this massive exodus of health care dollars.

Have a great weekend all.
Michael

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LITTLEPAPY wrote:

> DC a real doctor. What is a doctor anyway. If it is some sort of hockus
> pokus
> religious rite type of thing where only a certain class or order of people
> are allowed to be doctors, not based on their knowledge, but their
> membership
> in a special creed, racial group or other order based on political and
> religious privilaige, then I understand that you will never accept a
> chiropractor as a doctor, just as you may not accept a "jew", "chinaman"
> or
> "nigger" as a doctor, as insidently they were not accepted as doctors just
> a
> few years ago by most medical societies in America,  either regardless or
> their level of training or skill. After all bigotry is bigotry isn’t it?

> Chiropractors by state law in every state, and many foriegn countries must
> have more formal academic training than medical doctors. In most eastern
> states chiropractors are required to have 8 years of college, medical
> doctors
> are required to have 5. Chiropractors are doctors, but they are only
> doctors
> to those educated and knowledgeable enough to seek skill, education and
> results. Those who seek to find doctors based not on their knowledge but
> their political power and influence will probablly never accept
> chiropractors
> as doctors, fortunately most Americans are not that ignorant, which in
> part
> explaines why chiropractic has had an explosive growth in America and
> other
> parts of the world where there is an educated population base. As you
> know, a
> person with a PhD is more likely to be a chiropractic patient than a high
> school drop out. with a continium between these two levels of education.

> and incidently, the word physician means teacher, and how many MDs
> actually
> take the time to educate and try to help their patients have better lives?
> Most just do their jobs. They replace arteries, but do they help educate
> the
> patients as to how to prevent the arteries clogging in the first place.
> They
> give antibiotics, but do they teach proper diet and exercise? I know some
> do,
> but most chiropractors have many many more times training in these areas
> than
> do most medical physicians. So If you want to go to a doctor, with no
> intention of living longer, having better health or more enjoyment of
> living,
> may be chiropractors aren’t the type of doctor you should consider. True
> physicians teach their patients things they can do to make their own lives
> better, they are not just drug pushers in white coats. Chiropractors are
> often the best physicians as a group in this area. Education, preventative
> health care, vitamin therapies and nutrition, as well as manipulative care
> have been and remain the main stay of chiropractic. All of these have been
> scientifically proven and are accepted by those with education and normal
> intelligence as important to health. Even many traditional MDs now accept
> diet and life style as important to good health, Chiropractic physicians
> have
> always held these things to be important

> would appreciat your comments

Good points.  If we were taught natural hygiene principles from birth
and all the doctors were natural hygienist or the straight naturopaths
we could cut disease by 90% and the amount of doctors and medical
spending by 90%.   Perhaps we could pay them only when we are well like
they used to do in China.  They should really be teachers of healthy
living, and it is interesting you mentioning that physician means
teacher.  They could also teach us not to use mercury amalgam (don’t
wait for the dentists) or sleep in bad earth energy places.  If we get
ill they will have taught us to grow our own herbs and how to make
medicines from them.  This does go against human nature which wants to
hand over health responsibilities and likes the idea of just
take-a-pill-feel-better.  Pity it doesn’t work like that but no drug doc
or other potion pushing docs are going to tell them are they?  Most of
them believe it anyway.  The hidden agenda of medicine is that it needs
sickness like a junkie.  It is The Great Drug Cult of this century.

John

Chiropractors by state law in every state, and many foriegn countries must
have more formal academic training than medical doctors. In most eastern
states chiropractors are required to have 8 years of college, medical
doctors
are required to have 5. Chiropractors are doctors, but they are only
doctors
to those educated and knowledgeable enough to seek skill, education and
results. Those who seek to find doctors based not on their knowledge but
their political power and influence will probablly never accept
chiropractors
as doctors, fortunately most Americans are not that ignorant, which in
part
explaines why chiropractic has had an explosive growth in America and
other
parts of the world where there is an educated population base. As you
know, a
person with a PhD is more likely to be a chiropractic patient than a high
school drop out. with a continium between these two levels of education.

and incidently, the word physician means teacher, and how many MDs
actually
take the time to educate and try to help their patients have better lives?
Most just do their jobs. They replace arteries, but do they help educate
the
patients as to how to prevent the arteries clogging in the first place.
They
give antibiotics, but do they teach proper diet and exercise? I know some
do,
but most chiropractors have many many more times training in these areas
than
do most medical physicians. So If you want to go to a doctor, with no
intention of living longer, having better health or more enjoyment of
living,
may be chiropractors aren’t the type of doctor you should consider. True
physicians teach their patients things they can do to make their own lives
better, they are not just drug pushers in white coats. Chiropractors are
often the best physicians as a group in this area. Education, preventative
health care, vitamin therapies and nutrition, as well as manipulative care
have been and remain the main stay of chiropractic. All of these have been
scientifically proven and are accepted by those with education and normal
intelligence as important to health. Even many traditional MDs now accept
diet and life style as important to good health, Chiropractic physicians
have
always held these things to be important

would appreciat your comments